A number of years ago, I went to a mental illness support group meeting. I enjoyed the meeting. However, a group of people there were passionately anti-medication. At the time, I was taking Seroquel and it was helping me immensely. That was a strange situation to be in.
The impression I got from most of the anti-medication people is that they were against medication because of their personal negative experience with it. The reasons and experiences varied from forced medication to negative side effects. Actually, forced medication during hospital stays is what I remember being discussed the most.
It's not that I think all medications are great. They can be dangerous. I've had some negative experiences. Topamax triggered a small seizure in me. Geodon made me feel physically ill. Celexa made my moods worse. That last one isn't a surprise, because an antidepressant alone can be really de-stabalizing for someone with bipolar disorder. That's more the fault of my really stupid psychiatrist than the medication.
Seroquel may have caused some lasting problems with me. I have hypoglycemia. I may have had it before the Seroquel. It may have made it worse, or perhaps that's just something that would have happened anyway. Who knows.
The difference, I think, between me and those who are anti-medication, is that I found a medication that helps, and every day I decide that I want to take it. I don't have to take it, but if I do, my life is better. (Currently, that medication is lithium orotate.)
I don't think there should be two groups of people, those who are pro-med and those who are anti-med. It's just not black and white. What's good for me probably isn't good for you, although it might be.
Saturday, May 15, 2010
Friday, May 14, 2010
Thursday, May 13, 2010
One of them has to be stopped.
Stress causes symptoms.
Symptoms cause stress.
One of them has to be stopped to end the vicious cycle.
Medication might reduce the symptoms.
Therapy might help you to reduce the stress.
Tuesday, May 11, 2010
Monday, May 10, 2010
What I know about Lithium Orotate
NOTE:
I am not a doctor or medical professional, and I am not recommending lithium orotate use.
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Lithium orotate is not well known and not popular among doctors. This is because there are very few scientific studies and most evidence that it works is just anecdotal.
Lithium orotate is a supplement and available without prescription in the United States. There have only been a handful of studies that have been done on it. One study done on rats in 1979 concluded that lithium orotate can cause kidney fuction problems, but the rat was given the same dose of lithium carbonate as lithium orotate. Some people believe that this study is misleading because lithium orotate is effective at lower doses than lithium carbonate.
However, lithium orotate is puzzling because the doses that it is effective at don’t cause the person to reach the therapeutic range for their blood lithium level. When doctors prescribe lithium carbonate, they check the patient’s lithium level, and generally try to maintain a therapeutic blood level of 0.6 – 1.2 mmol/L. However, with lithium orotate, the effective dose often does not cause the person’s blood level to reach that range; in fact, the lithium blood level is so low that it may not be measurable. This is theorized because the lithium goes into the cells rather than stays in the blood. I’m not sure if I understand this, but it seems to cause the lithium to be effective at a lower dose, which also seems to cause less side effects. Lithium can be toxic at blood levels above 1.5 mmol/L, which is also why blood level tests are usually done with lithium carbonate.
In any case, I take 4 pills of Lithium Orotate every day. Each pill is 150mg which contains 4.8 mg of elemental lithium. Some people have found effectiveness with just 1 pill a day. For awhile I was taking 3 a day.I take the Advanced Research brand and it really helps keep my moods stable. 11/12/2011 Update: I take Doctor's Best Lithium Orotate and it continues to work well.
3/20/2015 Update: Doctor's Best brand was discontinued, so I switched to Vitamin Research Brand of Lithium Orotate.
There is one scientific study (Lithium toxicity from an internet dietary supplement) published about a person overdosing on lithium orotate. They took 18 pills and it caused them to have nausea and vomiting but their blood lithium level was only 0.4.
The reason I started taking the lithium orotate was actually my desire to treat myself. It is a risk I take, and not one I advise. But it turned out to a be an affordable solution for me, and an added benefit is no side effect of hand tremor. I took lithium carbonate for awhile, and after about a year, I developed a tremor from it.
I really do like how lithium makes me feel (the mood effects were similar for both lithium carbonate and lithium orotate) because it’s like it just makes me feel normal. When I’m not having to deal with the huge changes in my emotions, then I have more energy to just be myself. I know lithium doesn’t work for everyone, but it’s so good for me that I wish I had found it sooner.
If you want to read anecdotal stories of the lithium orotate, you can read reviews here.
You can read all of the studies availabe (all 7 of them!) at PubMed.gov.
9/7/2012 Update: Results from my lithium blood test.
I am not a doctor or medical professional, and I am not recommending lithium orotate use.
--
Lithium orotate is not well known and not popular among doctors. This is because there are very few scientific studies and most evidence that it works is just anecdotal.
Lithium orotate is a supplement and available without prescription in the United States. There have only been a handful of studies that have been done on it. One study done on rats in 1979 concluded that lithium orotate can cause kidney fuction problems, but the rat was given the same dose of lithium carbonate as lithium orotate. Some people believe that this study is misleading because lithium orotate is effective at lower doses than lithium carbonate.
However, lithium orotate is puzzling because the doses that it is effective at don’t cause the person to reach the therapeutic range for their blood lithium level. When doctors prescribe lithium carbonate, they check the patient’s lithium level, and generally try to maintain a therapeutic blood level of 0.6 – 1.2 mmol/L. However, with lithium orotate, the effective dose often does not cause the person’s blood level to reach that range; in fact, the lithium blood level is so low that it may not be measurable. This is theorized because the lithium goes into the cells rather than stays in the blood. I’m not sure if I understand this, but it seems to cause the lithium to be effective at a lower dose, which also seems to cause less side effects. Lithium can be toxic at blood levels above 1.5 mmol/L, which is also why blood level tests are usually done with lithium carbonate.
In any case, I take 4 pills of Lithium Orotate every day. Each pill is 150mg which contains 4.8 mg of elemental lithium. Some people have found effectiveness with just 1 pill a day. For awhile I was taking 3 a day.
3/20/2015 Update: Doctor's Best brand was discontinued, so I switched to Vitamin Research Brand of Lithium Orotate.
There is one scientific study (Lithium toxicity from an internet dietary supplement) published about a person overdosing on lithium orotate. They took 18 pills and it caused them to have nausea and vomiting but their blood lithium level was only 0.4.
The reason I started taking the lithium orotate was actually my desire to treat myself. It is a risk I take, and not one I advise. But it turned out to a be an affordable solution for me, and an added benefit is no side effect of hand tremor. I took lithium carbonate for awhile, and after about a year, I developed a tremor from it.
I really do like how lithium makes me feel (the mood effects were similar for both lithium carbonate and lithium orotate) because it’s like it just makes me feel normal. When I’m not having to deal with the huge changes in my emotions, then I have more energy to just be myself. I know lithium doesn’t work for everyone, but it’s so good for me that I wish I had found it sooner.
If you want to read anecdotal stories of the lithium orotate, you can read reviews here.
You can read all of the studies availabe (all 7 of them!) at PubMed.gov.
9/7/2012 Update: Results from my lithium blood test.
Sunday, May 9, 2010
Thank God for Lithium and Zinc (Medication Update)
I've been taking zinc for about 6 weeks and it has greatly reduced my depression. I'd say it's been eliminated. I wrote about zinc for treating depression here. Let's hope that the zinc keeps working.
I am also taking lithium orotate, which I've been taking for so many years that I've lost track (I'd estimate 4 years).
I still have occasional anxiety and moodiness. I recently lowered my lithium dosage by 1/2 pill (from 4 pills to 3.5) and I do have more symptoms with the lower dosage, but so far it is manageable. My mood changes are faster and stronger with the lowered dosage, but the trade off is a more dynamic range of feelings. I think. It's too early to tell for sure if I'll stick at the lowered dosage or not. If my stress increases, I may go back up to the 4 pills.
Mood-wise, life is good. Yay!
I am also taking lithium orotate, which I've been taking for so many years that I've lost track (I'd estimate 4 years).
I still have occasional anxiety and moodiness. I recently lowered my lithium dosage by 1/2 pill (from 4 pills to 3.5) and I do have more symptoms with the lower dosage, but so far it is manageable. My mood changes are faster and stronger with the lowered dosage, but the trade off is a more dynamic range of feelings. I think. It's too early to tell for sure if I'll stick at the lowered dosage or not. If my stress increases, I may go back up to the 4 pills.
Mood-wise, life is good. Yay!
Friday, May 7, 2010
Getting Ready for the Food Drive
Yesterday, we went to the grocery store to get some food for the Letter Carriers Food Drive.
I know the general idea is to just give some food away that has been in your cupboard, but when we can, we try to actually go to the store and purchase some food for the food drive.
It feels good to be buying food for someone else who needs it. We try to buy food that kids will like.
I think food banks get lots of beans and tuna, but who wants to eat that all of the time? (I've heard that waxed beans are the most popular donation.)
So we buy food that we would be happy to give anyone.
Here's a picture of some of what we are donating. It feels good to be helping others. We got some good deals on the food too. We went to Grocery Outlet, which is a West coast discount store, and those juice boxes were just 89 cents and the concentrate is from the USA.
(Some Apple juice is from concentrate made in CHINA! I just discovered this recently when looking at a store brand apple juice container. It's printed directly on the plastic container where the apple juice comes from. After seeing it on the juice I drank, I did a search and found this article. Apparently, even some brand names are buying from China.)
I know the general idea is to just give some food away that has been in your cupboard, but when we can, we try to actually go to the store and purchase some food for the food drive.
It feels good to be buying food for someone else who needs it. We try to buy food that kids will like.
I think food banks get lots of beans and tuna, but who wants to eat that all of the time? (I've heard that waxed beans are the most popular donation.)
So we buy food that we would be happy to give anyone.
Here's a picture of some of what we are donating. It feels good to be helping others. We got some good deals on the food too. We went to Grocery Outlet, which is a West coast discount store, and those juice boxes were just 89 cents and the concentrate is from the USA.
(Some Apple juice is from concentrate made in CHINA! I just discovered this recently when looking at a store brand apple juice container. It's printed directly on the plastic container where the apple juice comes from. After seeing it on the juice I drank, I did a search and found this article. Apparently, even some brand names are buying from China.)
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